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« on: October 29, 2009, 07:44:59 PM » |
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Was reading the earthquake history of the New Madrid earthquake fault zone. Check this out http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/states/missouri/history.phpEb was really flinging some power at someone or something. They estimate the quakes at a 12 earthquake, and it was 3 separate ones days and weeks apart! David |
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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2009, 07:41:43 AM » |
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What we don't know is whether Eb was flinging all that power around or whether his part in it was just poking stressed fault lines and letting an exisiting build-up of energy cut loose at a time that suited him.
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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2009, 07:26:24 PM » |
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Do we even know that Eb was the one who created the earthquake? doesn't it just say he was responsible for it? that could mean he went and stole something from a dragons hoard and the dragon got upset and made a earthquake. or any of a hundred other ways he could be responsible for it without actually putting out the magic and doing it himself. ...or Eb could have just reached down and shaken the earth with sheer power. who knows?  |
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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2009, 07:55:13 AM » |
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I tend to think that Eb asked someone class of powerful being to do it. Though the fact that Eb had enough foresight and skill to knock a satellite down suggests that he's the kind of guy that looks at the world in general and sees the potential for disaster.
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2009, 11:26:04 AM » |
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I tend to think that Eb asked someone class of powerful being to do it.
I'd find that more credible of a single instance, but New Madrid + Tunguska + Krakatoa + Casaverde + the suggestion that there have been many others ? That's a heck of a debt for him to be reacking up, no ? |
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2009, 12:10:19 PM » |
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I'd find that more credible of a single instance, but New Madrid + Tunguska + Krakatoa + Casaverde + the suggestion that there have been many others ? That's a heck of a debt for him to be reacking up, no ?
It certainly is, while I'm not saying I firmly believe in this idea, I think it could certainly create some interesting plot twists of the sort that would cause Kincaid and Eb to have a deep distaste for each other rather than the more frequent professional detachment. Of course he could use any number of methods. It might even be that he uses whichever fits, for example some sort of entropy curse for the satellite, or on the castle itself the satellite being a random bad thing. A bit of vulcanomancy where it's needed. OH no, those people aren't sitting on a fault line, hey you, mind destroying that bit of land? Is there any way of knowing how old Eb was when he caused the first catastrophe directly attributed to him? Those Porn-star sorceresses, were they racking up a debt  Sigh I need to read these books again. |
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unless explicitly stated otherwise Why are you assuming it has to be heartbreaking ? Signatures are a great way of saying something without getting personal. That which does not kill me has committed a grave tactical error. |
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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2009, 01:30:00 PM » |
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Is there any way of knowing how old Eb was when he caused the first catastrophe directly attributed to him?
I think Eb's age has been quoted somewhere, and it puts him on the young side for New Madrid IIRC; check the Timeline thread in Spoilers. Those Porn-star sorceresses, were they racking up a debt No, they weren't, but they were summoning and commanding, I thought you meant summoning and bargaining with. And summoning and commanding beings strong enough to carry out those disasters seems likely to not do Eb that much good long-term either; think of the Erlking's reaction to Harry summoning and binding him. (HWWB may well not have been overly pleased with being summoned and bound by the sorceresses, but they all got killed and he got to eat one of them, so any resentment he was feeling there would seem to have been adequately taken out.) |
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2009, 04:45:56 PM » |
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If Eb is claiming connection to this I hope Jim is aware that it is connected to a prophecy
and by connecting Eb and the failed prophecy...welll I wonder what he is doing.
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2009, 06:41:19 PM » |
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What prophecy are you talking about?
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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2009, 08:35:03 AM » |
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What prophecy are you talking about?
...and why do we have any reason to believe any real-world prophecy applies to the Dresdenverse ? |
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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2009, 08:51:54 AM » |
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Not every prophecy in the Dresdenverse has to be real either. It could have an in-book gobshite who went about claiming the same nonsense as the real-world gobshite, for the same reasons and with the same ability to foresee things.
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unless explicitly stated otherwise Why are you assuming it has to be heartbreaking ? Signatures are a great way of saying something without getting personal. That which does not kill me has committed a grave tactical error. |
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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2009, 04:40:30 PM » |
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Once upon a time there was a prophecy among my people that came to a leader. He was getting all of us together to get rid of these people who come over and decide we should all die so they could live where we lived.
It goes that he was to do certain things and then there would be the earthquake and we would do something and all those people would go away.
He failed.
He failed hard.
So the earthquake came, but he had not done what he was supposed to and look who lives here now.
THAT would be the prophecy I am referring too.
Sorry you have never heard it.
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« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2009, 04:41:08 PM » |
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« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2009, 05:21:39 PM » |
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interesting prophecy. and i believe wholeheartedly that Eb could have done it by himself, the old coot  but i think he might have done a bit of what Harry did in Sf, tapping into the power of faults, all the stress that was building up. just speculation of course..... O.o |
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« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2010, 09:04:41 PM » |
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I suppose we could take the supposed piezo-electric discharges from compressed geology reported by witnesses of the quake as something more mystical in nature? faerie fire anyone?
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