S1X5: Bad Blood

[NightProtector]

The change in her face...does this mean that the high council is composed of more than humans?  She looked a little...demonic.

[torgeaux]

Okay.

I put forth originally that one of my students enjoyed the show and saw it as a seperate entity from the books.  I was proud that she saw that both the show and the books have their merits.  I was also pleased to see that she recognized that the writers were going to have to change things to appeal to a broader audience.

She "got" it.

Your response, that she enjoys it because she has lower expectations felt a little insulting.  I let her read your comments because when she comes in for study hall is the only time she has access to a computer. She likes to surf here because she is a big fan of the Dresden Files. She doesn't have one at home.  I thought I'd let her respond.

She does have an open mind.  And yes, her mind is far more open than a many people who post on this board.  I'm sorry that you thought of yourself in that category. Your response originally came across to me and her as being narrow.  If you did not intend it as such, I am sorry and will apologize.

As for the "special" response?  I'm sorry if that came across as negative. I just read some of your other posts.  You are special.  You work hard at night and care for your son.  In my world that makes you special.  That's how we compliment people around here. Perhaps the three dots made it come across as mean.  Sorry. its  why I put the emoticon behind it.


As for your latest comments...I'm figured that was a knee jerk response to a misinterpreted post.  Not a problem.


You say, you care in the broad sense that the world is a better place if people are happy.  I'm glad.  I wish more people did.  I'm willing to let things go.  Truce?


Now back to the show...

What is going on with Ancient Mai?  Is she the head honcho of the Council now?

Cool beans, man.  Not just truce, but work together, discuss.  Too much knee jerking here for a forum of adults, lead of course, by me. 

Ancient Mai?  I said elsewhere, and now here, again, she's got a lot of Book Morgan in her.  That would be good, because I don't like TV morgan, and she could fill the missing niche, for me.

[NightProtector]

She definitely fits the BookMorgan role...especially with the slapping.  I just gotta wonder about the HighCouncil.  Is it composed of more than just wizards?  Obviously not vampires, but other...uh...things?

[Sway]

The change in her face...does this mean that the high council is composed of more than humans?  She looked a little...demonic.

Wasn't that in one of the books? Summer Knight, I believe. Not sure, though.
I got the impression that e.g. the Gatekeeper wasn't all homo sapiens. Or maybe he just has super special abilities?

Maybe they change with time. As they grow older they get less and less human? Just a thought.

[Tremaine]

Ancient Mai is another gripe of mine, she looked rather young to be labelled with the moniker "Ancient" and possibly not even human from one of the scenes. I do agree that this council is much darker that the other one. The very obvious "wetwork" team, and Harry's instant knowledge of them is also interesting. Very suggestive of his close connection with this council. EDIT: Does anyone find it strange that he can calmly announce the team responsible for the "hit" if it is council sanctioned?

I was intrigued with the idea that the vampire courts were also policed by the council (Bianca mention something to this effect in passing when they discuss who was after her, will need to rewatch the episode to make sure on this point though). There are also treaties between the different political bodies, as that is also mentioned, yet if she had infringed something, then surely the "Court" would go after her, and not the council. The council going after her would possibly break said treaties?

The problem I am having is that my knowledge comes from the books, and the TV series seems to be ignoring and changing this information to suit the current situation in the episode. I wonder if the series will be consistent with itself, or will suffer from the reset switch that is very prevalent in single episode series.

[ButMadNNW]

I agree with whoever stated that flashback Harry slipped into Blackthorne's real accent, but it seemed to change as he talked about growing up, and it kind of made me think that the accent changed with each new place he lived...  But I like to think the best of everything some people would call a mistake.

Hi, Sayessa. That was me who commented on the accent change. I'll have to view the scene again and see if I catch it changing, as you noted. I didn't care that his accent changed (don't view it as a "mistake," per se) - I love both of Paul's voices! (did you see him in "Mr. Monk and the Leper"? yummy!) - I was just curious to hear if I'd been the only one to notice it. You noticed it, so now I know I'm not going any more insane than usual.

Harry's depression after killing Justin was great!

I agree! Much more depth/development for the character, in a few short scenes.

I've put "Bad Blood" on to play while I was falling asleep the last two nights (waited and again watched Bob crying and Harry mugging last night before I laid down and tried to sleep - that scene is priceless!), but I really do need to sit down and watch it again. ....And can I say how much I love interesting TV shows that I have to see more than once to catch everything?

Ancient Mai is another gripe of mine, she looked rather young to be labelled with the moniker "Ancient"

When she entered, Harry had a line to the effect of "That's a new look," so I got the impression that Mai changed appearances from time to time. (Of course, lacking book knowledge, I have to interpret the information the series presents...)

(On a side note, I picked up Fool Moon last night, even though I haven't gotten to Storm Front yet - I'm that convinced I'm going to like it! )

There are also treaties between the different political bodies, as that is also mentioned, yet if she had infringed something, then surely the "Court" would go after her, and not the council. The council going after her would possibly break said treaties?

Bianca wanted Harry to look into it for her because (she said) she was concerned "someone" (another vampire? The Council?) had broken the treaty and there was a war going on of which she was unaware. I didn't get the impression that she thought she'd infringed something herself.

I wonder if the series will be consistent with itself, or will suffer from the reset switch that is very prevalent in single episode series.

I hope it will be consistent! I could write pages upon pages regarding the changes made in Highlander when the writing staff changed between seasons - whole histories rewritten.

[NightProtector]

I remember Harry saying something to the nature of "That's a new face for you" to her when she showed up.  

I don't know about the Gatekeeper.  I had almost forgotten about him.  Maybe he is just "super special."

[Dread Pirate Sayessa]

I figure that after having been on the wrong side of the council (re-killing Justin) Harry would know at least a bit about the council cleaning up messes after hits.  I would guess that such a squad would have been dispatched to Justin Morningway's house after Harry killed him.  Plus, if Justin was on the council, he would have told Harry a lot about how it works, since someday Harry would be on it.  And since Justin was SUCH a nice guy ( ) I'm sure he would have been in the thick of any contracted hits put out by the council.

About Bianca vs. the council, I would have to disagree with you, Tremaine.  By making it look like Bianca broke the treaties, that would take away her protection (for lack of a better term) and make her a target of the council.  The courts wouldn't care if she went up against the council and lost, because, well she brought it on herself.  And if she took out a few council members on her way down?  Bonus to the courts.  If the courts took her out for an offense against the council, they'd be risking their own people on behalf of the council, and I seriously doubt they care enough about the council to put their own necks on the line.

I just sort of view the courts and council as umbrella organizations that you can shelter under as long as you toe the line.  Break a rule and you're on your own--against the whole other organization.  Like countries during a cold war is the only analogy my tired brain could come up with...  

[Sway]

I remember Harry saying something to the nature of "That's a new face for you" to her when she showed up. 
I don't know about the Gatekeeper.  I had almost forgotten about him.  Maybe he is just "super special."

Well, I just thumbed through Summer Knight and Proven Guilty but it doesn't say. *shrugs*
Maybe we'll have to stick to "super special" then which is kicking butt enough, I guess

[Dread Pirate Sayessa]

Hi, Sayessa. That was me who commented on the accent change. I'll have to view the scene again and see if I catch it changing, as you noted. I didn't care that his accent changed (don't view it as a "mistake," per se) - I love both of Paul's voices! (did you see him in "Mr. Monk and the Leper"? yummy!) - I was just curious to hear if I'd been the only one to notice it. You noticed it, so now I know I'm not going any more insane than usual.

DVR'd it just BECAUSE I wanted to hear his "real" accent, and watched it twice already!!  Sooooo much a creepy fangirl, but that's OK cause I know I'm not alone!