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Author Topic: Changes...Early Spoiler Rules  (Read 23409 times)
Mickey Finn
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« on: March 21, 2007, 07:36:17 PM »

Just fyi...when it starts hitting the shelves, spoilers will fly faster than some people can get their hands on it (or, in some cases, faster than others will read).

To that end, I ask these things:
1) Keep actual spoilers out of the titles. These titles can be seen from the main board, sometimes, and sometimes folks hit the spoiler boards regarding past books.
2) Put CHANGES SPOILER in the title somewhere for a few weeks*, so people who haven't been able to get their hands on it as fast as you won't stumble across a spoiler by accident, perusing here for speculation or talk about older books.
3) Spoilers revealed in online reviews are still spoilers, and must be hidden under the spoiler tag.


NOTE:  OFFICIAL RELEASE DATE IS APRIL 6TH. Ban will be lifted at noon EST on this day. http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/usa/new-york/new-york-city/time/index.htm
We understand that some stores have released it early, especially outside the US.
There's a potential for major spoilers leaking before the official release. Apologies for those who have gotten the book and want to discuss it, but there was some bad mojo brewing on the boards despite those posters saying NOT to read their thread if you haven't read the book, using spoiler code, and posting in the correct board.
As such, we now have a rule that spoilers from people who have read the book cannot be posted until April 6th. Sorry about that, but this is one book people shouldn't get accidentally spoilered on! For those readers outside the US, this is not meant to slight you in any fashion. Please understand this is solely based on publication schedules and not political or cultural borders.

Note that no one who posted a spoiler before this post went up is in trouble in any way, and should be treated with respect. They completely adhered to the spoiler rules of the board. This is a new rule to avoid issue between now and April 6th.

NOTE: It doesn't matter how minor the spoiler is...we're not going there. Period.

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« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2007, 05:18:08 PM »

Thanks, Mickey. I usually don't mind spoilers, but I damn sure do mind people posting spoilers when the rest of us can't get our hands on the book yet! I've already read a couple of threads that baffled me until I realized they were probably WN spoilers.
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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2007, 05:33:09 PM »

Yes, especially thank you for the note about keeping spoilers out of the titles.  You are a very nice man.
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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2007, 05:44:26 PM »

I spent alot of time at CHUD.com, where the titles weren't so much in danger of spoilage as they were NSFW at times. I understand the concpet of titles being an issue Wink
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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2007, 06:20:36 PM »

*big hug for Mr. Finn* Thanks!
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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2007, 08:24:25 PM »

Thank you, Mister Finn!  Although I have finished the series through "Proven Guilty", I did join the site while I was reading the series for the first time and appreciated all the spoiler warnings.  The first thing I'm doing after work the day "White Knight" comes out is picking up my copy and goin' to make with the magic as Harry might say Smiley.
I'll tread lightly (both reading and posting) in the forum until I see that it's OK to start spilling discussion of the story.
Thank you again, sir.
 
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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2007, 06:45:08 AM »

A request... can you ask people stop dropping White Night spoilers into non White Night threads?  People keep dropping (admittedly relatively minor) WN spoilers into other threads and they keep adding up. Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2007, 10:17:35 AM »

I've seen other boards that use hidden spoilers. These boards usually don't have a spoilers/non-spoilers section, so whenever someone wants to post something that may be spoilery, they do this:
*******SPOILER (Highlight text to read)**************
Then they put the spoiler in white text so that if you want to read it, you highlight it, otherwise you just don't.
*******End Spoiler**********************
The only problem is that this BB system doesn't seem to offer the color white as an option.   Sad
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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2007, 11:20:39 AM »

I've seen other boards that use hidden spoilers. These boards usually don't have a spoilers/non-spoilers section, so whenever someone wants to post something that may be spoilery, they do this:
*******SPOILER (Highlight text to read)**************
Then they put the spoiler in white text so that if you want to read it, you highlight it, otherwise you just don't.
*******End Spoiler**********************
The only problem is that this BB system doesn't seem to offer the color white as an option.   Sad

This mode fails badly for those of us who got out of our ways to make our browsers default to white text on black background anyway, because reading any significant amount of dark text on a white background hurts our eyes badly.
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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2007, 11:29:18 AM »

A request... can you ask people stop dropping White Night spoilers into non White Night threads?  People keep dropping (admittedly relatively minor) WN spoilers into other threads and they keep adding up. Smiley

I strongly second this request.
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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2007, 09:13:35 PM »

This mode fails badly for those of us who got out of our ways to make our browsers default to white text on black background anyway, because reading any significant amount of dark text on a white background hurts our eyes badly.

The other problem is the board default colors - the white text would be visible on the light blue bkgrnd for the alternating posts.

The one board I was on that did it successfully had a grey box that covered the spoiler text, but I have NO idea how the code was written for that.
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2007, 09:35:06 PM »

There's an add-on module that will let you do it for SMF, but it seems silly considering we have a spoiler section on this board.
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« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2007, 04:14:31 PM »

*Since we know people tend to get legit copies a week or so before the official release date.

Hee, I'd like to know how someone can pull this off: I know someone who had a copy of WN two weeks ago and I honestly wanted to hunt them down and swipe it from them while they were sleeping.

I *did* pre-order a copy/read the sample first three chapters on JB's site, I just have to pick up my copy from the bookstore, which is in sales tax-free New Hampshire, thus since I can't drive, I'll have to wait till later this week to pick it up, when I can get a lift from my dad. Ah well, I'm still reading "Dead Beat" and watching the episode on the SciFi Channel's website in the meantime. I can wait... most of the time.
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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2007, 08:13:32 PM »

Personally, I think spoiler-blocks are the way to go.  They're like quotes, except they have a button on them that says "Spoiler, click to read", and are only expanded (and therefore readable) when the button is clicked.
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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2007, 09:30:18 PM »

Personally, I think spoiler-blocks are the way to go.  They're like quotes, except they have a button on them that says "Spoiler, click to read", and are only expanded (and therefore readable) when the button is clicked.

We have entire boards dedicated to spoilers.  If you don't want spoiled, don't go to that board.

It just seems so simple to me.
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