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Author Topic: No Furies, Ever?  (Read 7114 times)
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« on: May 26, 2006, 02:30:50 PM »

I hope this isn't going to be the way things are for the whole series. The problem with Tavi relying on cleverness to outwit his enemies is that his enemies have to be fools. Like Brensis. They have to make mistakes in order for him to be able to exploit their mistakes. Or else he has to be inordinately lucky. Incompetent villains get old after a while.

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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2006, 02:42:37 PM »

Not necessarily.  They're used to relying on their furies to solve problems.  Tavi isn't--because he doesn't have any.  So it makes sense that he learns to think and operate outside the box they've enclosed themselves in. 

So far, I don't think any of his adversaries has been unrealistically incompetent. 
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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2006, 03:19:38 PM »

My guess is that Tavi’s furies will be very, very powerful much like his grandfathers ( yes I also think the emperor is Tavi’s grandfather ) and Tavi will need both mental quickness and clearheadedness to control them and use them wisely. His time with no furies will help shape him and as Darla said “think outside the box”.

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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2006, 09:07:56 AM »

I have own theory about why Tavi has not gotten his furies yet, but I do believe he has them.

I have a feeling when he gets them, he will be the strongest crafter around (even stonger than Gaius), and being able to think outisde the box and use things other than his furies will make him a strong leader in whatever capacity.
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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2006, 01:23:16 PM »

So far, I don't think any of his adversaries has been unrealistically incompetent. 

You mean like Brensis, who kept raving and raving about what he was going to do to Tavi, but never quite got around to actually killing him?

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« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2006, 02:16:10 PM »

So far, I don't think any of his adversaries has been unrealistically incompetent. 

You mean like Brensis, who kept raving and raving about what he was going to do to Tavi, but never quite got around to actually killing him?

Think about it for a second. Brencis was doing the adolescent ego-posturing thing. As soon as he stops posturing and acts, then he runs the risk of screwing up. Plus, once he acts, he can't posture anymore. If he offed Tavi, he would lose his target.
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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2006, 01:40:23 AM »

Exactly.  Brencis was a typical adolescent bully.  Not unrealistic at all.
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« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2006, 08:48:29 AM »

I hope this isn't going to be the way things are for the whole series. The problem with Tavi relying on cleverness to outwit his enemies is that his enemies have to be fools.

I don't know, maybe it would be a good thing.  I only just finished reading Academ's Fury last night, so it's fresh in my mind, but I like how Tavi is learning (admittedly, the HARD way) that furies are NOT the answer to everything.  I liked his argument with his teacher during exams, about how it was NOT impossible for humans to have built great walls and structures without magic.  "What, they just carved and lifted blocks of marble with their bare hands?  Preposterous!"  heh...

So I can see a possible future where Tavi never has furies, and still succeeds quite well.  And innovates and changes Alera because of it.  Usher in a new age of technology, woo hoo!  Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2006, 08:54:09 AM »

I loved that argument, and of course the first thing that popped in my head was all the theories and such surrounding the building of the pyramids.

Who knows, maybe Jim's touched on the real truth! The ancient Egyptians used Furies!  LOL
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« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2006, 02:12:31 PM »

Exactly.  Brencis was a typical adolescent bully.  Not unrealistic at all.
And his dear old dad, Kalare? The great conspiritor? He could have smashed Tavi (and Max) like a bug and thus sidestepped the whole confrontation with Lady Placida. Tavi couldn't have stopped him, he wouldn't even have been able to detect the incoming crafting. But Kalare too had to stop and rave a while so that the cavalry could show up and save him. Because Tavi could not save himself.

Luck and incompetent enemies. I fear that will be the pattern for the entire series.

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